{"id":81,"date":"2017-08-06T18:02:22","date_gmt":"2017-08-06T18:02:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/knottheads.com\/blondevinyl\/?page_id=81"},"modified":"2026-01-24T07:20:03","modified_gmt":"2026-01-24T07:20:03","slug":"black-carnation","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/knottheads.com\/blondevinyl\/artist\/black-carnation\/","title":{"rendered":"Black Carnation"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align:left; padding:0px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"..\/..\/..\/wp-blondevinyl\/bc-header.jpg\" alt=\"Black Carnation\" width=\"100%\" border=\"0\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"tablebody\" style=\"width:100%; text-align:left;\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" style=\"text-align:justify; padding-left:5px;\">\nBlack Carnation was a modern rock trio from Grand Rapids, MI that was greatly influenced by post-punk bands like U2, The Fixx, and Morrissey.  After releasing an excellent, but mostly unnoticed album on Blonde Vinyl, they pretty much disappeared.  At one point most of their Blonde Vinyl album could be downloaded at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeffseaver.net\/\" target=\"_blank\">JeffSeaver.net<\/a> (site currently down).<\/p>\n<td width=\"10\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"..\/..\/..\/wp-blondevinyl\/bc-band1.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Black Carnation\" style=\"vertical-align:top;\" \/><\/td>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<h2 class=\"entry-title\" style=\"font-size:28px; padding: 0 0 20px 0;\"><strong>Pre-Blonde Vinyl Career<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"tablebody\" style=\"width:100%; text-align:left;\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"..\/..\/..\/wp-blondevinyl\/bc1.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"album cover\" style=\"vertical-align:top;\" \/><\/td>\n<td width=\"10\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"musicTop\">\n<span class=\"albumtitle\"><b>Children Of The Revolution<\/b><\/span><br \/>\nIndependent (1988)<\/p>\n<p><b>Jeff Seaver<\/b> &#8211; vocals, guitar, harmonica<br \/>\n<b>Matt Cushman<\/b> &#8211; keyboard<br \/>\n<b>Tim Kelly<\/b> &#8211; drums<\/p>\n<p><b>Bart Lillie<\/b> &#8211; tambourine on &#8220;Sweet Israel&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 01) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Throw Red Roses \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:17 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 02) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Pity \t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:02 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 03) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Sweet Israel \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:27 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 04) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Strawberry Jam \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 1:59 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 05) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Tongues of Fire \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:41 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 06) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Black World \t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:46 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver \/ Kelli Woods <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 07) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Rushes by the Seashore \t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 1:14 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 08) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Cry Cry Lullaby \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 1:35 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 09) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Chasing after the Wind \t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:16 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 10) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Forever Night \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:36 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 11) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Out of Sight &#8211; Out of Mind \t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:46 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><\/p>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"..\/..\/..\/wp-blondevinyl\/bc2.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"album cover\" style=\"vertical-align:top;\" \/><\/td>\n<td width=\"10\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"musicTop\">\n<span class=\"albumtitle\"><b>Hope<\/b><\/span><br \/>\nIndependent (1990)<br \/>\nProduced by <b>Black Carnation<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Jeff Seaver<\/b> &#8211; vox, guitars, trumpet<br \/>\n<b>Kendall Thomas<\/b> &#8211; bass<br \/>\n<b>Phil Melton<\/b> &#8211; drums<\/p>\n<p><b>Cort Langeland<\/b> &#8211; lead guitar<br \/>\n<b>Dan Kelchack<\/b> &#8211; lead guitar<br \/>\n<b>Rick Devon<\/b> &#8211; drums, backing vocals<br \/>\n<b>Tom Seaver<\/b> &#8211; backing vocals<br \/>\n<b>Dorah Helmus<\/b> &#8211; violin<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 01) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Today I Danced Upon a Fallen Tree \t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:56 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 02) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Walk By Your Side \t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:12 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 03) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> How Long Must I Run? \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:55 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 04) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Touched By the Hand of Love \t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:19 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 05) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Devil Child \t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 5:04 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 06) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> One Fine Night In a Day Dream \t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:42 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 07) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Love Dies Quickly \t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:21 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 08) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Hope \t\t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:21 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 09) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> War \t\t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 5:16 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<h2 class=\"entry-title\" style=\"font-size:28px; padding: 0 0 20px 0;\"><strong>Blonde Vinyl Releases<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"tablebody\" style=\"width:100%; text-align:left;\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"..\/..\/..\/wp-blondevinyl\/bc.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"album cover\" style=\"vertical-align:top;\" \/><\/td>\n<td width=\"10\">&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"musicTop\">\n<span class=\"albumtitle\"><b>it remains the same<\/b><\/span><br \/>\nBVCD3412 (1992)<br \/>\nProduced by <b>Brad Wildey<\/b> and <b>Black Carnation<\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>Jeff Seaver<\/b> &#8211; vox, guitars, trumpet<br \/>\n<b>Kendall Thomas<\/b> &#8211; bass<br \/>\n<b>Craig Hoeve<\/b> &#8211; drums<\/p>\n<p><b>Chris Scapellitti<\/b> &#8211; piano, organ<br \/>\n<b>Rick Devon<\/b> &#8211; vox<br \/>\n<b>Dan Bryska<\/b> &#8211; sax<br \/>\n<b>Bruce Madden<\/b> &#8211; harmonica<br \/>\n<b>Max Colley III<\/b> &#8211; trumpet<br \/>\n<b>Brad Wildey<\/b> &#8211; guitar<br \/>\n<b>Mike Sweeney<\/b> &#8211; congas<br \/>\n<b>Dave Lamse<\/b> &#8211; violin<br \/>\n<b>Denise Flippin<\/b> &#8211; vox<br \/>\n<b>Sharon Alexander<\/b>, <b>Nicole Erickson<\/b>, <b>Heather Insley<\/b>, <b>Monty Arnold<\/b>, <b>Joni Grooters<\/b> &#8211; choir<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"1\" border=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 01) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> The Horse Song \t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:52 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 02) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> One Fine Night in a Daydream \t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:23 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 03) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Black World \t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:41 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver \/ Kelli Woods <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 04) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Chasing After the Wind \t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:23 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 05) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> It Remains the Same \t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:26 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 06) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Love Dies Quickly \t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:45 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 07) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Legacy \t\t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:28 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 08) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Today I Danced upon a Fallen Tree \t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 4:49 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 09) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> The Wanderer \t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 3:20 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"music\"> 10) <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> On the Wind \t\t\t\t\t<\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> 2:59 <\/td>\n<td class=\"music\"> Seaver <\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<hr \/>\n<h2 class=\"entry-title\" style=\"font-size:28px; padding: 0 0 20px 0;\"><strong>Post-Blonde Vinyl Career<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"tablebody\" style=\"width:100%; text-align:justify; padding-left:5px;\">\n&#8220;Their last concert, performed at Taylor University, was shut down midway by university officials because Seaver encouraged the student audience to disregard the conservative Christian school&#8217;s no-dancing policy&#8221; (from a deleted <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Black_carnation\" target=\"_blank\">Wikipedia.org article<\/a>)<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"entry-title\" style=\"font-size:28px; padding: 0 0 20px 0;\"><strong>Listen \/ Stream<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Black Carnation - Children of the Revolution (1988)\" width=\"584\" height=\"329\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/videoseries?list=PLK2-e1f78QgfB78OCrz0SpPoR78toU6PF\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Black Carnation - Hope (1990)\" width=\"584\" height=\"329\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/videoseries?list=PLK2-e1f78QgfQHtkstm4q18_dqVRGMu1U\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; 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